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CITY OF VICTORIA
WORKSHOP CITY COUNCIL MEETING
NOVEMBER 13, 2008
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
7951 ROSE
VICTORIA, MINNESOTA
MINUTES
(1) CALL TO ORDER:
Pursuant to due call and posted notice
thereof, the City Council Workshop of the Victoria City Council was called
to order at 5:00 p.m. by Mayor Hershberger Thun in the Council Chambers at
7951 Rose.
Roll Call:
Council Members Present: Mayor:
Mary Hershberger Thun. Councilmembers: Tim Amundsen, Jim Paulsen, Kim
Roden and Rick Tieden.
Absent: None.
Others Present: City Administrator Don Uram,
Community Development Director Holly Kreft; Finance Director Jylan
Johnson; City Attorney Mike Norton; Sue Orsen, Victoria Gazette;
Unsie Zuege, The Chanhassen Villager; Field House Director, Ann
Mahnke, Building Official Tom Gray; and Recording Secretary Tanya Schmieg.
(2) AGENDA:
-A- Victoria City Hall Building
Deficiencies and Relocation Option
1) Exhibits: Limited Moisture
Intrusion/Microbial Assessment
Preliminary Estimate – Remediation of Building Deficiencies
ModSpace Building Plan and Preliminary Quote
Building Placement Options
Memo Re: Skate Board Park
Mr. Uram said that after the last
meeting they contracted with Applied Environmental Sciences, Inc., to do a
study on the environmental health which is included in the packet.
Kevin Cairns, CIH, provided an
overview of the study. He said he talked with some of the employees on how
they felt and talked about some of the responses. He said they also talked
about potential odors. Mr. Cairns said there was some moisture intrusion
in the building. He said they also did a visual examination and reviewed
the findings listed in the packet. He explained that HVAC systems supply
the air through underground air ducts and pictures were taken. He noted
that moisture water flow has occurred in some of the air ducts. Mr. Cairns
commented on the Men’s restroom and custodial room having fungal growth.
He said they also collected moisture samples of the carpeting and elevated
moisture levels were found under the mats.
Mr. Uram stated there were some
specific recommendations made if the Council’s preferred option was to
stay in this building. He said they would need to replace the HVAC system
and remediate all the mold problems. He noted the costs are preliminary
estimates. He said they would also have to replace the carpet. Mr. Uram
said the total would be approximately $200,000.
Mr. Uram explained the other option
being a temporary solution. He noted there is a total of about 5,000
square feet in the current building. He said the largest available space
for lease in Victoria is about 1,400 square feet. Mr. Uram stated he
looked at two modular building companies. He said his recommendation would
be to secure a modular trailer and locate it at the Field House on the
existing skate board site. He commented on the other locations they looked
at and said the Field House already has existing parking and utilities. He
noted the bid to extend the utilities would be about $3,000 for water and
sanitary sewer. Mr. Uram said the quotes for a 24 month lease are about
$3,000 to $4,000 a month for a building of up to 6,000 square feet. He
said further they need to consider the timing for the demolition of this
building. He stated he recommends taking it down in the spring.
Mayor Hershberger Thun clarified the
recommendation would be to board up the current building until it is
demolished in the spring. Mr. Uram said yes, it would be unavailable at a
certain point. He also noted they are renting the air exchangers on a per
day basis and the quicker they can be out the better it would be
financially.
Mayor Hershberger Thun asked how fast
the pods could be up. Mr. Uram said between 35 and 40 days. He said it can
be designed to how they want.
Councilmember Paulsen asked about
using the new community room at the Field House for meetings. Ms. Mahnke
said that is about 1,000 square feet.
Councilmember Roden said she is
interested in the timeline of having to be in the modular buildings. Mr.
Uram said this would be a temporary fix. Councilmember Roden asked if the
plan would be to lease space until a new city hall is finished. Mr. Uram
said it would be better financially to be in a trailer versus leasing new
office space.
Mayor Hershberger Thun stated they
need to keep moving forward and focus on what they would want in a
permanent City Hall. Mr. Uram said this will give time to think about what
should be done. He said the new City Hall is still in the plan for 2011.
Councilmember Paulsen commented on the
front end costs. Councilmember Roden asked about the budget for the front
end and monthly costs and the plan to pay for this. Mr. Uram said they
would amortize the up front costs and there is money set aside for the
future long term City Hall that could be used.
Councilmember Roden asked about how
staff felt. Mr. Uram said staff understands what the situation is. He
noted there are some advantages to the temporary trailers having more
windows and being cleaner.
Councilmember Roden questioned the
screening. Mr. Uram showed the location and said he doesn’t see any
impacts to anybody at this location.
Councilmember Tieden asked about the
traffic assessments. Mr. Uram said it is mainly day time use with minimal
traffic. He said there will on occasion be some traffic with the nightly
meetings.
Councilmember Tieden asked where the
skate board park would go. Mr. Uram said that Ms. Mahnke will take it to
the Park and Recreation Commission to see what they should do with it.
Councilmember Roden questioned how
easy it would be to add staff if they are there longer. Mr. Uram said the
quote is for 6,000 square feet which is sufficient for additional staff
members.
Mayor Hershberger Thun clarified the
modular building would only be for staff usage.
Councilmember Roden asked about a
warranty of the materials being used. Mr. Uram stated they will have to
meet all building code requirements.
Councilmember Paulsen asked how many
exits there would be. Mr. Gray responded two.
Councilmember Paulsen commented on the
additional 2,000 square feet used for a few meetings a month. Mayor
Hershberger Thun asked about the incremental costs. Mr. Uram said the
incremental cost is minimal.
Councilmember Roden clarified that the
contract will specify the monthly rate.
Mayor Hershberger Thun said they could
talk to the same company that took down the Acorn House to see if anything
could be salvaged.
Mr. Uram asked if the furniture and
cube space would be safe to move. Mr. Cairns said that anything with a
hard surface could be cleaned and used and the fabrics could use a HEPA
vacuum.
Mayor Hershberger Thun said she would
like to actively explore a new City Hall so staff can look forward to a
place where the government does meet and function in the future.
Mayor Hershberger Thun clarified that
there would be no guarantees these problems wouldn’t come back if
remediated. Mr. Cairns said only if the moisture problems were solved.
Mayor Hershberger Thun stated she
would like to keep the City Council Chambers with the City Hall.
Councilmember Roden said she agrees that it makes sense to have it all in
one place and said it would be more convenient for staff.
Councilmember Paulsen questioned the
moving costs. Mr. Uram said they will have a detailed cost for everything
they do before it happens and will do it as inexpensively as they can.
Mayor Hershberger Thun commented on
the parking use if needed. Mr. Uram noted the current location would be
the most logical place for a parking facility with a deck.
(3) ADJOURNMENT:
The Workshop adjourned at 5:46 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Tanya Schmieg
Recording Secretary
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.
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