Planning Commission Minutes

CITY OF VICTORIA
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
JANUARY 2, 2008

MEETING

Pursuant to due posted and mailed notice thereof, the Victoria Planning Commission met on January 2, 2008, at 7951 Rose in the Council Chambers.

Chair Simanton opened the meeting at 6:55 p.m.

Members Present: Chair, Gordy Simanton; Commissioners James Donadio III, Tom Vogt and Grant Peterson.

Members Absent: Commissioner Bud Hiivala.

Others Present: Holly Kreft, City Planner; Angie Perera, Assistant Planner; City Councilmember Jim Paulsen; and Tanya Schmieg, Recording Secretary.

Chair Simanton welcomed new Commissioner Grant Peterson.

A. Adopt Agenda

A motion was made by Vogt, seconded by Donadio, to adopt the agenda as presented. Vote: 4 Ayes, 0 Nays. Motion Carried.
 

#2 APPROVAL OF MINUTES:

A. Minutes of the October 16, 2007 Planning Commission Meeting.

Commissioner Vogt suggested the first sentence on page 2 read as follows: Ms. Kreft reviewed the additional information regarding the six issues discussed by the Planning Commission at the October 2^nd meeting.

Commissioner Vogt asked that the 3^rd to last paragraph on page 4 be clarified. Ms. Kreft said unless there are changes to the 2020 Comprehensive Plan they don’t have to meet the 3 units per acre net on the additional land. She noted the Marsh Lake Hunt Club land is Ag.

B. Minutes of November 13, 2007 Planning Commission Meeting.

Chair Simanton corrected the name spelling page 4, 4^th paragraph to: Mr. Essig.

C. Minutes of the December 18, 2007 Planning Commission Meeting.

Commissioner Vogt revised page 2, paragraph 2 to read: Commissioner Donadio noted that the Lano-Burau property is higher density than what was previously guided.

A motion was made by Simanton, seconded by Donadio, to approve the above Minutes with the revisions. Vote: 4 Ayes, 0 Nays. Motion carried.

D. Review Minutes from the November 8, 2007 City Council Meeting.

The above minutes were reviewed.

E. Review Minutes from the December 13, 2007, City Council Meeting.

The above minutes were reviewed.
 

None.
 

A. Presentation by Jeff Schoenbauer of Brauer Associates – Redefining the Development Process:

1. Agenda Statement No. 07-53
2. Exhibits: Redefining the Development Process

Ms. Kreft stated that included in the packet is information that was provided at the workshop along with a copy of the presentation.

Mr. Schoenbauer provided some background information and noted he has been involved with Brauer and Associates since 1980.

Mr. Schoenbauer reviewed the presentation. He talked about the public side making better decisions and working more confidentially with developers. Mr. Schoenbauer suggested a new model for managing development. He referred to Lino Lakes and explained the case study.

The Planning Commission discussed the expectations and trust of the developer.

Commissioner Donadio commented on the items listed under public value becoming required under the market forces. He talked about the surveys that have been completed and some of the items under public values being demanded by buyers. Commissioner Donadio commented on the open space and the economic interest. Mr. Schoenbauer said under the public values the developer should help pay for the greenway to connect the parks.

Chair Simanton noted that according to a survey done a few years ago the number one thing people wanted was parks. He talked about the developers taking the public value and turning that into marketable assets.

Commissioner Donadio asked about this process being used on the 13.5 acres. Ms. Kreft responded possibly. She noted that both the City of Victoria and Carver County have received a Blue Cross Blue Shield grant, which paid for Mr. Schoenbauer.

Mr. Schoenbauer talked the density with Met Council and the rules making it difficult to negotiate.

Commissioner Vogt commented on the vision and communication changing with different councils, commissions and staff. He said the administrative is a key part. Mr. Schoenbauer said in Lino Lakes they had to provide a different means in which all the parties came together. He noted they brought all the entities together at the conceptual stage. He said to think abut the internal processes.

Commissioner Peterson asked if the same concept has been used with commercial development. Mr. Schoenbauer said his direct experience has been with residential. He noted the economics and space utilization is different dealing with a commercial entity.

Chair Simanton asked about the difference with destination versus linking trails. Mr. Schoenbauer responded that the destination trail is a trail that runs through a greenway type setting uninterrupted by traffic and linking follows the road right-of-way. He noted they look at destination trails first then use linking trails.

Chair Simanton commented on the collaboration piece and the trust level. Mr. Schoenbauer referred to Lino Lakes and they set it up so the collaborate type of developers will likely be successful. Chair Simanton noted that he did like the incentive part of the collaborative piece.

Mr. Schoenbauer stated that for the collaborative part to be successful the public needs to be as objective as possible. He said would like to develop a manual of all the best practices and give that to communities.

Commissioner Donadio asked how the cities are getting better. Mr. Schoenbauer responded that if you are respectful of what the others position is it is much easier. He noted that actual design of a development happens in weeks or months.
 

Councilmember Paulsen had nothing to report.
 

A. Communications.

None.
 

A motion was made by Donadio, seconded by Vogt, to adjourn the meeting at 8:10 p.m. Vote: 4 Ayes, 0 Nays. Motion carried.
 

Respectfully submitted,

Tanya Schmieg
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