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CITY OF VICTORIA
REGULAR
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
AUGUST 21, 2007
MEETING
Pursuant to due posted and mailed notice thereof, the Victoria Planning
Commission met on August 21, 2007, at 7951 Rose in the Council Chambers.
#1 CALL TO ORDER & ROLL CALL:
Vice-Chair Vogt opened the meeting at
6:30 p.m.
Members Present: Vice-Chair
Vogt, Commissioners James Donadio III, William Mead VI, Bud Hiivala
Members Absent: Chair Gordy
Simanton
Others Present: Holly Kreft,
City Planner; City Councilmember Jim Paulsen; and Tanya Schmieg, Recording
Secretary.
A. Adopt Agenda
A motion was made by Donadio, seconded
by Mead, to adopt the agenda as amended. Vote: 4 Ayes, 0 Nays. Motion
Carried.
#2 APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
A. Minutes of the August 7, 2007,
Planning Commission Meeting.
Vice-Chair Vogt added to page 5, 3rd
paragraph, 3rd sentence: She said there would be odd shaped
home sites if wetland areas would be deeded to the City as outlots.
A motion was made by Hiivala, seconded
by Donadio, to approve the Minutes as amended. Vote: 4 Ayes, 0 Nays.
Motion carried.
B. Review minutes of the August 9,
2007 City Council Meeting.
The above minutes were reviewed.
#3 PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. Request by Victoria Gallery LLC
(Pemtom) for a re-plat of lots 1 through 7 for the Gallery at Victoria and
the vacation of drainage and utility easements to reduce Block 1 to six
lots (to be known as Gallery 3rd Addition) within the City of
Victoria, Carver County, Minnesota
1. Agenda Statement No. 07-39
2. Exhibits: Application, Preliminary and Final Plat
Ms. Kreft explained this is a
reduction of the number of lots from seven to six and a vacation of the
existing drainage and utility easements. The new easements will be
dedicated with the plat.
Ms. Kreft stated staff is recommending
approval of the re-plat and noted that a developer’s agreement would not
be required.
Vice-Chair Vogt asked how many total
lots were planned in this development. Ms. Kreft responded 34-35.
Commissioner Hiivala asked if the
storm drain and pond remain the same. Ms. Kreft said correct, the recorded
easements need to shift, but there aren’t any other adjustments needed for
storm water.
Vice-Chair Vogt clarified the term of
vacation of the existing easements and drainage meaning they are erasing
the original easement lines and re-drawing them in accordance with the new
lot line.
Vice-Chair Vogt opened the Public
Hearing at 6:34 p.m.
Vice-Chair Vogt closed the Public
Hearing at 6:34 p.m.
A motion was made by Vogt, seconded by
Hiivala, to approve the request by Victoria Gallery LLC (Pemtom) for a
re-plat of lots 1 through 7 for the Gallery at Victoria and the vacation
of drainage and utility easements to reduce Block 1 to six lots (to be
known as Gallery 3rd Addition) within the City of Victoria,
Carver County, Minnesota. Vote: 4 Ayes, 0 Nays. Motion carried.
Continued Public Hearing
A. Request by U.S. Home Corporation
(Lennar) for Preliminary and Final Plat to create three lots accessed by a
private drive for the property located at 395 Highway 7 (plat to be known
as "Fox Hollow Ridge", property formerly known as "the Westar property"),
Excelsior, MN, Carver County, Minnesota
1. Agenda Statement No. 07-40
2. Exhibits: Application, Preliminary and Final Plat, Comments from Fire
Department and City Engineer
Ms. Kreft explained some of the items
discussed at the last meeting and one of them was the wetlands. She noted
a compromise was reached and Outlot A and B will be recorded and deeded to
the City. Another item discussed is if development would ever occur to the
north or south. The developer is platting an easement along the south side
of the property and following the private drive to the north to allow for
a drainage and utility easement so that water and sewer could be brought
in.
Ms. Kreft said another item discussed
was the park dedication. She said they have reached an agreement that the
developer would dedicate Outlot A to allow City access in the future to
construct a trail to the south and the rest of the park dedication would
be in cash. There was also discussion about another trail east west
connecting in to Chanhassen. She noted the property to the north is
currently being marketed as a single home site and if it is sold only a
building permit would be required and the City would have to pay for an
easement.
The developer has also agreed to
include the eastern 33 feet within the plat so any future roadway would
not be connecting to Kings Road.
Commissioner Hiivala asked if the
developer is given credit for donating the two outlots to the City. Ms.
Kreft said there is not credit for park.
Vice-Chair Vogt clarified that there
is a single private driveway in the lot that would be a single family
site. Ms. Kreft said that is correct. That is the extent that Mn/DOT has
indicated in writing that would ever be allowed.
Vice-Chair Vogt asked for
clarification on the reason for having wetlands deeded. Ms. Kreft said
wetlands and buffers are required to be deeded to the City in outlots for
preservation and maintenance. She noted this is a unique situation.
Vice-Chair Vogt commented on precedent setting.
Vice-Chair Vogt asked if there are
parameters for the size of the cul de sac in order to ensure proper
turnaround for the fire trucks. Ms. Kreft said the Fire Department has
reviewed this. The proposed dimensions are adequate for fire protection
per review of the Victoria Fire Department.
Vice-Chair Vogt commented on the tree
preservation and asked who does the replacement of the trees. Ms. Kreft
said that it would be a cash donation to the City.
Vice-Chair Vogt talked about the area
impacts section and asked about the south property to be looped. Ms. Kreft
said if the property were to develop the sewer would most likely come from
the south and water could potentially come from the north and the water
line would need to be looped and that is why they are requesting an
easement for both water and sewer to be allowed.
Vice-Chair Vogt re-opened the Public
Hearing at 6:52 p.m.
Michael Hampton, 4198 White Oak Lane,
Chanhassen, talked about an issue that came up with the storm last week
with the trees and now they are laying in the properties to the east and
asked if those would also be included in the tree clean up. He asked if
there has been any investigation by the Planning Commission. Matt
Goldstein, Developer with Lennar, said he would talk to Mr. Hampton about
the clean up of the trees.
Mr. Hampton asked what the size of
Outlot B is. Commissioner Mead responded that it calculates to 1.2 acres.
Matt Goldstein, Planner and Project
Manager with Lennar, addressed a couple questions. He said they would be
happy to provide no parking signage.
Mr. Goldstein commented on the tree
preservation and said they could make the road narrower to 22-24 feet and
tighten up the ditches to save a few more trees. He reiterated that he
will work with Mr. Hampton on the tree removal.
Commissioner Donadio talked about the
balance between streets and making sure the road is wide enough for fire
and safety. Vice-Chair Vogt said they should go with what the Fire
Department recommends. Commissioner Donadio commented that if they ever
plan on part of this road to access properties to the south the road would
need to be wide enough. The plans currently show 28 feet, which is the
standard City street width in Victoria.
Vice-Chair Vogt commented on the 9
conditions and the 22 recommendations by Engineering and said there are a
lot of outstanding items. Ms. Kreft noted that some of the conditions are
standard language. She also explained The Minnehaha Creek Watershed
District has started there review and it should be completed August 27th
or 29th. Vice-Chair Vogt asked who monitors all the conditions
for compliance. Ms. Kreft said the City Planner and Engineer will be
monitoring everything. Mr. Goldstein said they are comfortable with the
conditions submitted.
Suzanne Boda, 4196 White Oak Lane,
Chanhassen, questioned the easement going up to the northwest and asked if
that could potentially be developed in to a roadway. Ms. Kreft responded
no and it is just dedicated as a drainage and utility easement.
Vice-Chair Vogt closed the Public
Hearing at 7:04 p.m.
Commissioner Hiivala commented on that
it should be a 28 foot road. He also suggested that just south of that the
land if it should need access be available as an easement made for use. He
noted that should be a condition within a condition.
A motion was made by Vogt, seconded by
Hiivala, to approve the Request by U.S. Home Corporation (Lennar) for
Preliminary and Final Plat to create three lots accessed by a private
drive for the property located at 395 Highway 7 (plat to be known as "Fox
Hollow Ridge", property formerly known as "the Westar property"),
Excelsior, MN, Carver County, Minnesota, subject to the 9 conditions by
staff and the 1 added by Commissioner Hiivala. Vote: 4 Ayes, 0 Nays.
Motion carried.
#4 NEW / OLD BUSINESS:
A. Request by D.R. Horton to Amend
the Developer’s Agreement for Krey Lakes
1. Agenda Statement No. 07-41
2. Exhibits: Request Letter, Draft Agreement Amendment
Ms. Kreft explained the current
deadline is October 15, 2007 to complete all of the necessary improvements
and have all the infrastructure in place and the roads remaining to be
paved completed in 2008. In order to do that an addendum to the
developer’s agreement is required. Commissioner Donadio asked what the
date is in 2008. Ms. Kreft responded they are requesting a one year
extension, so it would be October 15, 2008.
A motion was made by Vogt, seconded by
Donadio, to approve the request by D.R. Horton to Amend the Developer’s
Agreement for Krey Lakes. Vote: 4 Ayes, 0 Nays. Motion carried 4-0.
B. Approval of Sale of Land for
Former MABBSCO Group Home Site
1. Agenda Statement No. 07-42
2. Exhibits: Resolution
Ms. Kreft explained that as required
by State Statute, the sale of the land must be reviewed to make sure it
meets the goals and policies of the Comprehensive Plan. She said it will
be re-guided to Central Business District.
Ms. Kreft stated that legal counsel
has attached resolution number 07-01 outlining that the Planning
Commission has reviewed it.
Ms. Kreft noted that Thursday night at
the City Council meeting there is an agenda item to approve the sale of
the property.
Vice-Chair Vogt asked if they still
believe it is a commercial site versus some other site such as park land
or residential housing. Ms. Kreft said there are some issues with the site
such as limited access to Highway 5 and the cost of infrastructure
improvements from the existing downtown to the site.
The Planning Commission discussed the
land. Commissioner Hiivala pointed out that this is the only land
available. Vice-Chair Vogt said to leave as many options open as possible.
Commissioner Mead thinks it is a good idea and they need to find the right
developer. The Planning Commission does question what the status of the
City Council’s views are on this. Based on all the discussion in the past
six months to a year this is still a good option and fits the
comprehensive plan.
A motion was made Vogt, seconded by
Mead seconded, to recommend approval of resolution number 07-01 regarding
the land sale between the City of Victoria and Tree Rivers Park District.
Vote: 4 Ayes, 0 Nays. Motion carried 4-0.
#5 COUNCIL LIAISON UPDATE:
Councilmember Paulsen talked about the
vote on the Gallery going from 7 to 6 lots and said in the future the
opposite may occur. He commented on a local bank and making no more loans.
#6 MISCELLANEOUS:
A. Communications.
Ms. Kreft noted there is a
comprehensive plan open house this Saturday from 9 a.m. to 11 a.m. and
next Monday from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m.
#7 ADJOURNMENT:
A motion was made by Hiivala, seconded
by Donadio, to adjourn the meeting at 7:26 p.m. Vote: 4 Ayes, 0 Nays.
Motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
Tanya Schmieg
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.
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